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How many here gave up having a family for the sake of the "truth"?

by stuckinarut2 in

this is a sensitive topic for many of us i know, but i am wondering how many here actually gave up the idea of having a family "in this system" for the sake of "kingdom activity or service"??.

start the count here with my wife and i.

problemaddict 2

My wife and I were on the track to Gilead, already need greating, and refused children. NONE of our JW friends have kids.

She got preggers by accident, but I was already "waking up". We were stressed and upset.....but not like we thought we would be. We purposely had a second, and both are still very young. Being a mom woke up my wife in part, and its the greatest thing we ever let happen.

I see our friends without children getting to the point where they may not be able to have any....and I just wonder if they will be happy at 60.

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Article: Reveal News-California court guts child abuse ruling against Jehovah's Witnesses

by AndersonsInfo in

http://www.revealnews.org/article/california-court-guts-child-abuse-ruling-against-jehovahs-witnesses/.

california court guts child abuse ruling against jehovahs witnesses.

topics: religion / religion and government .

problemaddict 2

Now, three years later, an appeals court has eroded her courtroom victory even further by ruling that the leadership of the Jehovah’s Witnesses had no duty to warn congregants that a confessed child molester was one of their own.

Wow! I simply can't believe this. On the one hand I understand the judge is essentially saying its a slippery slope to make a church responsible to keep all of its congregants from harm, and I would even be apt to agree that could be broadly defined to an inane degree. However, this seems really to exist on the other side of that line.

Hey I like young girls and touch them sometimes.

Ok cool, well as long as your sorry, oh and we won't tell the police because we will handle it internally.

Awesome. can I go out in service with young kids?

Sure we don't see why not.

Awesome. Way to go WT! Even having the balls to appeal this mess is telling. And now they win it against this victim. What a mess.

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Wife wants a Family Study after the special talk...but initially refuses Bible only study.

by garyneal in

my wife asked me to attend the special talk with her because she wants to attend something like this as a family and feels that she "enjoys worshipping together" as a family.

i have not been to church for at least a year and have pretty much abandoned the practicing of my faith but i can remember how i used to want to have a church going family so i obliged.

i feel kind of apprehensive about doing these things because she wants the kids and i to be on our best behavior and has even fussed at me for playing tablet games during other talks.

problemaddict 2

Its a phenomenon of "helplessness".

They conflate their ability to reason, listen to God, and learn things, with the direction they receive from those whom they believe he has chosen. Of course the reasoning is so circular that you can be dropped in on it at any point and it immediately becomes self sustaining.

You are of course living proof that without the GB's direction you will just end up being a born again atheist hybrid who will probably cheat on her one day. Sheesh. It saddens me to think of otherwise good marriages having to deal with this mess over whos interpretation of what reads mythology.....is more accurate.

the quotes Eden shared in my opinion can make even the most stout JW get their hair up a little.

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These guys crash a Kingdom Hall on Memorial, video included

by Crazyguy in

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7mars2mtaui.

to funny nice job....

problemaddict 2

This same moron again. He did this last year as well. I wonder how many people he was able to convince to listen to him by his rant last year.

this is nothing but personal therapy for a mentally unhinged individual. He stoops to their level, surpasses it, feeds the persecution complex, and locks people into their way of thought. He does this for what?

Yelling God is gay in the KH has to be maybe top 3 best ways to entrench beliefs and overturn doubts due to "persecution".

This guy might as well be on the GB payroll. Selfish, short sighted, and part of the problem.

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Kendrick " Letter of Introduction " from Elders regarding Candace Conti Case

by flipper in

as many of us saw in the pbs news hour program and the abc news nightline program the elders from one congregation failed to communicate properly to the elders in another congregation concerning the child molester jonathan kendrick when he moved to a new congregation.

i have parts of this " introduction letter " from the fremont congregation to the oakley congregation elders so you can read it for yourself and decide how irresponsible these wt appointed elders were.

dated 1/16/98 it opens : .

problemaddict 2

This is angering.

IMPOTANT: He plays the violin and enjoys woodworking.

NOT IMPORTANT: Admitted sexual molestation.

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Questions that were never answered for me

by WasOnceBlind in

i have always been a very rational and thoughtful person.

there where always questions i had growing up regarding things i was taught.

of course asking questions while being a jw is a big no no!

problemaddict 2

I'll take a stab at the basic JW answers on these if you want. (puts on cult hat)

Why are we not allowed to have beards?

Well you can have beards if you like. After all, Jesus has a beard and hair grows on mens faces. However, because we are a "spectacle to the world", and many are still stumbled by this appearance or believe it represents a person of suspicious motive......we really encourage all to put on the new personality, and not allow themselves to put personal taste above what may be a stumbling block for those in the ministry. even then if someone insists on having a beard, they can, but cannot enjoy special privileges in the congregation. Who would want to miss out on that!

Why no tattoos is mosaic law is over?

(see beards......add tatoos making declaration of "ownership" of your body, and willingly gave ourselves to Jehovah in baptism)

If god is love, why does he allow so much suffering? From what I remember their main answer was that it started in Eden when Satan challenged Gods right to rule. However, I refuse to believe that a God of Love would let billions thru history suffer and die just to prove a point!

Time is but a blink in jehovahs eyes, and all of this will be righted with these ones getting a do not pass go, do not have to go through Armageddon card in order to see the new world.

Why no birthdays? (their explanations are super shaky)

Only 2 mentions of birthdays in the bible blah blah blah. But also they claim it is self glorification, pagan tradition (candles etc...), and that the first century Christians purposely avoided it (spurious claim).

Of course the bible has nothing good to say about dogs or indoor plumbing.....but those seem to be ok.

Is earth is 6k years old, whats up with Dinosaurs? Cavemen?

JW's do not believe the earth is 6K years old. They believe man is roughly that old.

I had many more, these are just some that come to mind.

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...Which Way is the Cat Going?!...

by OUTLAW in

i found this on yahoo news... while it doesn`t raise an important question... it raises an interesting question... .

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problemaddict 2

Oubillette beat me to it. Its down.

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Hi Everyone. Answer to prayer countdown...

by Stumpy in

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i've been lurking for about 3 months now and thought i'd better finally sign up.

you have all been an immense help to me as i have come to realize that this isn't the truth so i want to say a great big thank you!

what a crazy, emotional ride it is to finally face the truth about the doubts that i have carried for many years.

problemaddict 2

Stumpy,

Welcome to you and (hopefully), your wife. I have said this many times but if my wife can leave....anyones can.

I have some friends that used to pioneer up along the coast north of Sydney. Good people. In their early 30's now I think.

I hope it continues to go well. Don't be surprised if she vacillates back and forth a little. Its almost like stages of grief.

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This Year's Memorial

by TD in

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perhaps i'm just getting older and crankier, but it really seems to me that the jw faith is deteriorating at an accelerated rate.. case in point: this year's memorial talk.

it was one of the most incoherent messes i've ever heard.

(and i've heard a lot of memorial talks over the last 50 years....).

problemaddict 2

Hey! I watch the moon too!

Well.....only sometimes. Not that often really. I like the eclipses but sometimes they happen early in the morning. In fact come to think of it, I don't really look at the moon much.

I guess I'm just not governing body material.

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Faithful and Discreet slave class. Challenge the definition

by stuckinarut2 in

ok, so we all know that the basis the org uses for its power, authority, and supposed ability to speak on behalf of god is matt 24:45.

"who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics to give them their food at the proper time?".

but how can it possibly define the wt org?.

problemaddict 2

This is the great barrier of thought. It is the greatest issue facing JW's and they can't see it. When I look back to my awakening, it all boiled down to this.

Who has the authority to tell you what to believe (scripturally speaking).

with a careful examination of scripture, Jesus is the ONLY one granted authority. He then assigns RESPONSIBILITY to others. You can apply whatever meaning to this scripture you like, but there is still no transference of authority from Jesus to....well......anyone.